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Redesigning complex pathways: improving frailty care

In the fifth episode of Season Two of our Leading Improvement in Health and Care podcast, we look at redesigning complex pathways

16 December 2025

Welcome to the next episode of our Leading Improvement in Health and Care podcast. In this episode, we're looking at how improvement approaches can help redesign services for frail older people, taking a whole system approach. 

We hear practical advice from a national and local perspective on how to inspire and support change that spans different departments and sectors.   

Our guests are:  

  • Dr Tom Downes, consultant geriatrician at Sheffield Teaching Hospitals, and national clinical director for older people.  
  • Dr Simon Harlin, GP and community clinical lead, Walsall Healthcare NHS Trust 
  • Peter Chessum, associate director of nursing, Walsall Healthcare NHS Trust 

Hosted by Penny Pereira, managing director of Q, and Matthew Taylor, chief executive, NHS Confederation, each episode aims to spotlight where improvement is working well, as well as the challenges it faces.  

This podcast is part of Learning and Improving Across Systems, a partnership between the Health Foundation, NHS Confederation and the Q community to support health and care systems to learn and improve.

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This podcast is part of Learning and Improving Across Systems – a partnership with the Health Foundation, NHS Confederation and the Q community to support health and care systems to learn and improve. 

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